tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post2766845588555271144..comments2024-03-18T04:40:38.214-05:00Comments on Murderous Musings: Death in the Arizona Desert: The Untold StoryChester Campbellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07155257451021065218noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-39051119471011731542010-07-23T09:42:34.446-05:002010-07-23T09:42:34.446-05:00Don't know how that "which out" got ...Don't know how that "which out" got in my last comment. It should say "check out," of course.Chester Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07155257451021065218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-85486885243117692702010-07-23T09:40:30.575-05:002010-07-23T09:40:30.575-05:00If you want to see some census facts re the Hispan...If you want to see some census facts re the Hispanic population, which out http://www.infoplease.com/spot/hhmcensus1.html. It says 9.7 million voted in the 2008 presidential election. That's a significant number, and it will no doubt be topped in this fall's elections. With almost half the country's Hispanics living in California and Texas, they could easily swing elections in those states. It isn't the illegals Obama is concerned about, it's those legals who vote in elections.Chester Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07155257451021065218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-80085884625201499552010-07-23T04:32:51.444-05:002010-07-23T04:32:51.444-05:00Pat, the Dept. of the Interior won't even let ...Pat, the Dept. of the Interior won't even let the Border Patrol access some of our border parkland. Needless to say, that's a major trafficking alley, especially south and southwest of Tucson.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01368973223808495975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-48482930343226603112010-07-23T04:17:55.091-05:002010-07-23T04:17:55.091-05:00That sounds nice, but what about the New Black Pan...That sounds nice, but what about the New Black Panther Party and its voter intimidation practices and Eric Holder's refusal to take the matter on? Wasn't that voter intimidation?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01368973223808495975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-64272546668147100922010-07-22T21:46:18.117-05:002010-07-22T21:46:18.117-05:00Ben,
Regarding the Hispanic vote -- are there fig...Ben,<br /><br />Regarding the Hispanic vote -- are there figures on how many votes that is, counting only legal voters?<br /><br />You need ID to register to vote, so will illegals stay away and how many votes will a politician then lose? Will the cops man registration desks and voting stations to check IDs and arrest anyone with forged ID? <br /><br />What kind of recommendation for democracy will that be? Voter intimidation belongs to third-rate countries, not this one.<br /><br />It's not a simple problem.<br /><br />Pat B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-4460340546228220552010-07-22T19:47:00.110-05:002010-07-22T19:47:00.110-05:00Pat, it's not just the fence.
Pro-amnesty act...Pat, it's not just the fence.<br /><br />Pro-amnesty activists resist every effort to close the border or enforce immigration laws already on the books. The President could close the border and put a significant adverse impact on the smugglers who are spreading out through the desert and into our communities nationwide. <br /><br />It would require more manpower, more equipment, more training, this at a time when people need jobs. Adding manpower and enforcing laws already on the books will upset Hispanics, by far the largest illegal presence, and with so many Hispanics having already made it, some of them amnesty benefactors from days gone by -- many with relatives already living here illegally, or knowing someone who is -- their vote will likely favor open border policies, although those Hispanics who've been here a long time and prospered, tend to support a more secure border. At least, that's what I've seen in polls. <br /><br />In many cities across the U.S. a cop may not question an illegal's immigration status. <br /><br />That's just nuts. <br /><br />The president could change a lot of things; he just doesn't want to do it. Hispanics vote, and Obama's party needs all the votes it can get with mid-term elections on the way. Open border activists are working voter registration efforts, something Obama did so well with ACORN and other groups. It's about votes, Pat. It always is. Obama is playing Boss Tweed viz-a-viz Hispanics, much as Tweed courted the Irish.<br /><br />Meanwhile, people are dying, and drug lord corruption and violence is increasing and spreading out.<br /><br />Note please: When Janet Napolitano was Governor of Arizona, she pleaded for government troops and more resources to enforce our Arizona border, called it an emergency. Then Obama named her Homeland Security Director, and she changed her mind.<br /><br />Why do you suppose she did that?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01368973223808495975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-33105354330677113702010-07-22T19:03:21.135-05:002010-07-22T19:03:21.135-05:00Ben, I think you're being unduly harsh on the ...Ben, I think you're being unduly harsh on the Obama administration. I don't believe it's all about politics. I think it's just that nobody knows what to do about the problem. They're being yammered at from all sides.<br /><br />We go all over the world trying to solve everyone else's problems while our own just fester. <br /><br />With all due respect to the environmentalists and the fence, they need to sit down and shut up. If it takes a fence to stop the flow, then build the fence.<br /><br />Pat BrowningAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-44636806557217908242010-07-22T10:49:02.654-05:002010-07-22T10:49:02.654-05:00Ben, thank you for this thorough and well-thought-...Ben, thank you for this thorough and well-thought-out post. People in the rest of the country need this information--especially when the people in this administration who condemn the Arizona law so publicly have never even read it.Jaden Terrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11113218513166921429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-89696121120276765972010-07-20T19:15:48.491-05:002010-07-20T19:15:48.491-05:00Excellent points, Mark. And Bob, I'd have rath...Excellent points, Mark. And Bob, I'd have rather had the legislature just make it a crime to be in this state unlawfully. I think the "reasonable suspicion" criteria will be mis-understood, as it's really a civil law term, not a criminal law term, so cops aren't as familiar with it. And I'm not nuts about the suing the state for non-inforcement aspect either, as that just means more tax dollars thrown to lawyers and more political nonsense. Frankly, I'd just prefer bussing them to California, where they seem to want them so badly. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01368973223808495975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-13909672860243679322010-07-20T16:54:57.609-05:002010-07-20T16:54:57.609-05:00I've read SB 1070, which strikes me as reasona...I've read SB 1070, which strikes me as reasonable. The rhetoric on both sides of the illegal immigration issue seems overblown to me. But it's clear that the federal government has fallen down on the job. We need a bipartisan federal initiative to control the borders in the short term and to come up with an overarching immigration policy in the long term. The problem is even worse than illegal immigrants risking their lives to come here. We have to stop the northward flow of drugs and the southward flow of guns and money that fuels the cartels, or eventually the drug violence will come to the U.S.Bob Sanchezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08350825385315155962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-50026289288797200112010-07-20T14:54:31.761-05:002010-07-20T14:54:31.761-05:00I just returned from a quick trip to Mexico where ...I just returned from a quick trip to Mexico where I had stops in Toluca, Guadalajara, and Monterey. In Toluca, I was issued a "shore pass", which I had to keep with my passport until I left Monterey for the States. Since 1952, the US has required people visiting this country to have a document saying they are here legally, and yet there is outrage over Arizona's trying to enforce that. If there isn't a problem, then why did the US just send more military troops to the Mexican border to attempt to curb the problem of illegals crossing into this country? Why is there so much opposition to protecting our borders? Why is there a double-standard for Mexico and the USA for requiring legal documentation? I'm totally confused by all this.Mark W. Danielsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05127689413680147200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-35026259315540093362010-07-20T00:59:47.302-05:002010-07-20T00:59:47.302-05:00The Pinal County Sheriff's office tonight est...The Pinal County Sheriff's office tonight estimated 2600 illegals are passing through his county each day. And his county is more than an hour's drive north of the border. Our local news team rode with deputies as they chased illegal and smugglers through the washes the last few days. I'll post those vids when they put them on KVOA's website.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01368973223808495975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-91106195577203937772010-07-19T20:41:54.343-05:002010-07-19T20:41:54.343-05:00The politicians shed crocodile tears over the poor...The politicians shed crocodile tears over the poor, mistreated illegals, but they do nothing to stop the flow of thousands more. They should all be forced to sit down and watch that video and read your post, Ben. But it wouldn't likely do any good. They're too addicted to the quest for those Hispanic votes.Chester Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07155257451021065218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-50344390288749974672010-07-19T12:12:05.822-05:002010-07-19T12:12:05.822-05:00This certainly makes one think. I had no idea that...This certainly makes one think. I had no idea that this was going on. I knew there were illegals. Colorado has it's share. But we are not in the position to deal with the death rate this post describes. I will share this.<br /><br />Nancy<br />http://nrwilliams.blogspot.com/N. R. Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02174506528962095858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6404036170106001374.post-86266587371720740712010-07-19T10:46:29.259-05:002010-07-19T10:46:29.259-05:00Thank you, Ben, for your report and the video. I h...Thank you, Ben, for your report and the video. I hope everyone watches it.Jean Henry Meadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08146960738692672013noreply@blogger.com